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Deleted User 8/4/2023 11:20 PM
i mean a catgirl was one of my plural awakenings soooo....
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a question to tulpas; do you consider the host's body to be your physical body? or do you feel like you don't have one at all and you're just possessing someone?
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second one
11:24 PM
I am actually pretty upset at the body's voice
11:24 PM
because I don't sound like that in the head
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Korekiyo - DICE 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/4/2023 11:24 PM
We don’t consider it as belonging to solely one person but something everyone shares and is trying to make into something that doesn’t utterly suck
11:24 PM
Our original even doesn’t consider the body theirs anymore
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Korekiyo - DICE 3(🏝)0
Our original even doesn’t consider the body theirs anymore
this is an interesting proposition
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Nota
a question to tulpas; do you consider the host's body to be your physical body? or do you feel like you don't have one at all and you're just possessing someone?
My headmates consider the body to be shared between us, and drastic decisions about it are agreed upon through discussions
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/4/2023 11:27 PM
We see our original as the "owner" of the body, but we generally just view it as a vessel we all use equally.
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Korekiyo - DICE 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/4/2023 11:28 PM
They have just as much right to the body as we do, so in that regard we’re completely equal
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Korekiyo - DICE 3(🏝)0 ↩️
Reply to: Our original even doesn’t consider the body theirs anymore
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so for most it's like controlling a huge vehicle (edited)
11:28 PM
blanka seems to be an exception
11:29 PM
does this depend on how the host shapes their tulpa?
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I think it would depend on how uncomfortable the system members feel with the body For us, we all equally feel uncomfortable with it, including me and i'm the host So we're all equally disconnected/connected to the body
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Korekiyo - DICE 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/4/2023 11:31 PM
Yeah, some of us are more satisfied with how the body is than others so they feel a little more connected to it while the rest of us just see it as like a game avatar with “stupidly low stats that we’re trying to level up” (Shuichi A was the one who came up with this analogy)
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then i am playing singleplayer
11:34 PM
how much does having multiple system members help with making decisions?
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We pretty much all have the same goals so it's not too hard But it's also not any easier i don't think
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how much does having multiple system members help with making decisions?
@Nota - jump Having a dialogue that feels like a different perspective (even if it's in the same brain) is immensely helpful in all sorts of ways
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Nota
so for most it's like controlling a huge vehicle (edited)
Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 8/4/2023 11:35 PM
the way my system sees it is that the lines between ourselves and the body are arbitrary, we can see the body as a separate shared body and as being jointly us
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Korekiyo - DICE 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/4/2023 11:35 PM
Having multiple different perspectives is a curse and a blessing at the same time
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notafed ↩️
Reply to: how much does having multiple system members help with making decisions?
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I've been intentionally cultivating a view of the faculties in the brain and body as "us/ours" and our identities as separate, rather than the body/brain functions being "mine"
11:36 PM
This has helped with switching a lot
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Nota
how much does having multiple system members help with making decisions?
Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 8/4/2023 11:36 PM
it sometimes helps a lot with getting un-stuck, and with decisions where having someone playing devil's advocate is useful
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Same goals, but different perspectives/opinions, yeah
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I've been intentionally cultivating a view of the faculties in the brain and body as "us/ours" and our identities as separate, rather than the body/brain functions being "mine"
Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 8/4/2023 11:38 PM
same here, Cerys insists on this, making it clear that each of us can achieve anything that the others can
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/4/2023 11:38 PM
I mean, there's 24 of us. Even still, most of the time, the hosts make the major choices.
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whoa, this many?
11:38 PM
i thought having 4 was a stretch
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wim [from eries] BOT 8/4/2023 11:38 PM
i see our body as the way i can do things in this world but think that is a shared belief across most members in the system/eries so it would make sense i like got it passed onto me uwu sometimes i can control our human sometimes not
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notafed ↩️
Reply to: a question to tulpas; do you consider the host's body to be your physical body? or do you feel like …
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Korekiyo - DICE 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/4/2023 11:39 PM
There’s 34 of us with 30 being the most in charge and the ones doing the major decision making
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/4/2023 11:39 PM
We're mostly functional. Then again, we're a mixed-origin system.
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Nota
i thought having 4 was a stretch
There are 5 of us
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Deleted User 8/4/2023 11:39 PM
\ 😭 <- over 1k
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/4/2023 11:39 PM
We don't have any serious traits that differ us from most tulpamancers that much, though
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Korekiyo - DICE 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/4/2023 11:40 PM
We usually do a “yay” or “nay” system where the loudest side wins if we don’t have time for a majority vote
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Korekiyo - DICE 3(🏝)0 ↩️
Reply to: There’s 34 of us with 30 being the most in charge and the ones doing the major decision making
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It's pretty rare to have less than three headmates from what I've seen! Most people have quite a few
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Korekiyo - DICE 3(🏝)0
We usually do a “yay” or “nay” system where the loudest side wins if we don’t have time for a majority vote
holy crap this is just like the dark assembly from disgaea
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/4/2023 11:40 PM
Not really. I wouldn't call that rare. I see lots of systems of two.
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Gibby
It's pretty rare to have less than three headmates from what I've seen! Most people have quite a few
Deleted User 8/4/2023 11:41 PM
apparently the majority in Real Life is this many
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/4/2023 11:41 PM
Perhaps in the wider plural community, but not with tulpamancy
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Gibby
It's pretty rare to have less than three headmates from what I've seen! Most people have quite a few
what's the purpose of having so many?
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Deleted User 8/4/2023 11:41 PM
i honestly wish i could explain
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/4/2023 11:41 PM
We started with one, then three.
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Deleted User 8/4/2023 11:41 PM
it just works for us
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I am the only tupa
11:41 PM
just a duo
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/4/2023 11:41 PM
It just happened
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
Not really. I wouldn't call that rare. I see lots of systems of two.
Interesting, I've been in the wider plural community a few years and I've only ever come across just one headmate when ppl are like really new
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Deleted User 8/4/2023 11:42 PM
we don't always make these identities though.. making over 1000 tulpas in a year would be. pheeeew
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/4/2023 11:42 PM
A few people in our system decided to create people for whatever reason, Izuru made/let in 13 of them
11:44 PM
Lots of people who were ‘let in’ to the system, not too many of us were actually intentional
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/4/2023 11:46 PM
Most of ours we just let in. We stopped doing that
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/4/2023 11:46 PM
Yeah we’re just like “No more people”
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I want people who disagree with me and so they can yell at me to do stuff i need to
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/4/2023 11:47 PM
We’re gonna be a responsible(?) system and not let anymore people join our ranks
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 ↩️
Reply to: Yeah we’re just like “No more people”
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Someone was yelling at me this morning to get the fuck out of bed
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/4/2023 11:48 PM
We're planning on fusing down to 15-20 over the next year.
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How do you stop more from coming in?
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/4/2023 11:48 PM
Just tell ‘em no
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/4/2023 11:48 PM
I know for a fact the Old Vets™️ of the system are staying. Ben and Seth are national treasures.
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how do you even manage all of that?
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/4/2023 11:48 PM
Am national treasure :3
11:49 PM
I dunno, we just do
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notafed ↩️
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11:49 PM
We've lived like this for a couple years, it's alright.
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does that mean that if i befriend a system person i'll obtain 30 friends at once
11:50 PM
uhh
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/4/2023 11:50 PM
yes
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lifehack
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assuming all the tulpas just so happen to like me
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/4/2023 11:51 PM
We have a schedule
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notafed ↩️
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Nota
how do you even manage all of that?
We're only 5, but i find with my system it's similar to living as one person since everyone has a role and fronts when that role is needed We take turns fronting for fun when no roles are needed
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Nota
a question to tulpas; do you consider the host's body to be your physical body? or do you feel like you don't have one at all and you're just possessing someone?
A long kiss goodnight 8/4/2023 11:52 PM
I feel that the body is mine but it's not my form
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Fhern | Shadow System BOT 8/4/2023 11:52 PM
I think the body just exists I see it as ours in the sense our hosts operate it (edited)
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Nota
does that mean that if i befriend a system person i'll obtain 30 friends at once
Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 8/4/2023 11:53 PM
It's even better than that; you can even start to consider being friends with non-plural people who have complex personalities as being equivalent to making multiple friends at once
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/4/2023 11:54 PM
We're planning on starting back up with a fronting schedule too
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈
It's even better than that; you can even start to consider being friends with non-plural people who have complex personalities as being equivalent to making multiple friends at once
eh, that's kind of a stretch
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Nota
eh, that's kind of a stretch
Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 8/4/2023 11:55 PM
how so?
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Fhern | Shadow System BOT 8/4/2023 11:56 PM
does this depend on how the host shapes their tulpa?
@Nota - jump I think it depends on how often you use the body and what your host allows. Those who never switch are more likely to have hosts who think the body is theirs
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈
how so?
everyone has a wide range of emotions, experiences and memories. being complex is a normal human trait
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Nota
everyone has a wide range of emotions, experiences and memories. being complex is a normal human trait
Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 8/4/2023 11:59 PM
and how does this prevent you from seeing making friends with someone very complex being like making multiple friends at once? (edited)
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I could see it being a little bit disrespectful to whoever is being cast in that light.
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈
and how does this prevent you from seeing making friends with someone very complex being like making multiple friends at once? (edited)
they would have the same opinions and memories
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Nota
how much does having multiple system members help with making decisions?
A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 12:00 AM
Most of our decision making happens between Gray and I since we are the co-hosts, but lately things have been messy and my headmates have stepped in to do more decision making lately. We are a system of 11 now, expecting to drop to 10 soon given a planned integration. We used to be a system of 18 at our peak.
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berockly (TTG) 8/5/2023 12:00 AM
Dangg
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We'll have the same amount of people
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 12:01 AM
We dont have any form of real genuine heirarchy, but we have people who are more in charge of daily life than others, and it can change from any given time
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Usually these people make most immediate desicions. Longer term ones we discuss all together
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berockly (TTG) 8/5/2023 12:01 AM
Like
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all?
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Or like a bunch of you at once
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Also how many thonks are you
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 12:02 AM
We take turns, usually it's a handful of us. We hardly ever collectively (all 24) vote on things
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berockly (TTG) 8/5/2023 12:02 AM
pluralthonk
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 12:02 AM
But yeah, if the hosts can't decide or want a more collective opinion, we usually ask 3-4 others.
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A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 12:03 AM
Our system meetings were always messy because there was always one person having a crisis. We found it's just easier to go the "oh geeze" route and just tell people when they wake up.
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berockly (TTG) 8/5/2023 12:04 AM
I see
12:04 AM
I exclusively make most decisions, my tulpas are currently not awake often enough/separate enough to consistently use them to help make decisions
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 12:05 AM
Our system meetings are basically only if there’s a real problem or multiple people cornering one person to call them out on their bullshit
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